SO THE IRISH WERE CATHOLIC AND EASTERN EUROPE WAS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN WE ALL ANTICIPATED

the class when we started talking about whether the reformation in eastern europe was a success

So eastern Europe is made up of Poland, Bohemia, Hungary. Eventually protestantism made its way into their society, but most people were not happy about it (ESPECIALLY THE POLISH)

You see, the book summarizes it very nicely by saying that religious differences are often settled by ethnic background. Which is exactly what happened with the polish. Poles hates germans. The germans like Lutheranism. Ergo, the poles hate lutheranism. So the reformation was a total failure in poland (agreed?) BUUUUUTTT the Polish did start to like Calvinism (mainly because it was French). Yet success and failure in the reformation was measured by whether or not the Catholic Church lost power, and it didn't in Poland. I'll leave it up to you to decide though.

In Hungrary we decided that it was a short term success, because they converted, but then... reverted?? so in the end, also a failure. 

Also super important: THE CATHOLIC REFORMATION AND COUNTER REFORMATION

(NO THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING)

The difference being that the Catholic reformation wanted to reform the church and make it better while the counter reformation just wanted to get rid of protestantism. To make it easy to remmeber

Catholic = strengthen church

Counter = weaken protestantism

the reformations can be summarized in three major events/occurences:

1. council of trent --> it was advertized to be a reconciliation with the protestants, but it was really just the Catholic church saying that it would evaulate the protestant's points to see if they fit into the church. SPOILER: THE PROTESTANT POINTS DONT. The CC found that they were right and reaffirmed the sacrements, and transubstantiation. 

the Catholic Church at Trent 

2. new religious orders -->  a revival in catholicism; wanted to teach people about the joys of Catholicism. example would be the Jesuits.
     - mix of counter and catholic reformations... depending on the religious order

3. the inquisition (the holy office) --> basically forcing people to come back from catholicism... yeah oops...
        - it was more anti-protestant than pro-catholic.... just get rid of the protestants and lives become easier

just for you Lily ;)

Notes From the Class about the class:

1. Abby was extremely happy that Canada won some hockey game (are we suprised they won? lmk)

2. Julia has been vegetarian since February and has a heart of gold. 

3. Lily has an extremely complicated family history that I will never be able to understand.